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  1. says:

    But What Of Earth A great title I was hooked on that alone.However, I had to go about reading this one a different way than any other There are, as any Anthony fan knows, two different versions of this novel The first one was the hacked up, chewed up and spat out Laser Book 44 published in 1976 with apparent co author Robert Coulson, and Anthony s original manuscript published by Tor Books in 1989, with a 100 plus specific gripes pertaining to the 76 version of the published novel But What Of Earth A great title I was hooked on that alone.However, I had to go about reading this one a different way than any other There are, as any Anthony fan knows, two different versions of this novel The first one was the hacked up, chewed up and spat out Laser Book 44 published in 1976 with apparent co author Robert Coulson, and Anthony s original manuscript published by Tor Books in 1989, with a 100 plus specific gripes pertaining to the 76 version of the published novel of which I would rate 2 stars mostly for the lame and goofy ending that was substituted for the original which was not perfect but rather brilliant.I had first read that original manuscript, then the Laser version and then again the first original version for clarification.The only other book I ve read,other than those by Piers Anthony was his Anthology short story collection In that book he spent much of it griping about the trouble he had with editors and agents such as Frederick Pohl of all people When I first read the intro of the 1989 version of What about Earth I thought Here we go again Does Piers Anthony ever publish anything without whining about what he went through getting it out to his adoring and loyal followers I know, being one of a sort, all artists must deal with this shit Movie script writers dumbfounded as to what their vision actually turned out to be at the end of shooting, song writers having to put up with a singer s interpretation and such It s art and theothers are involved in it, as specially those who have a financial stake, as frustrating as it is, will warp your oeuvre into what they believe will serve their own interestsBut with But What of Earth , Anthony makes a open and shut case His novel was definitely brutalized They practically used his manuscript as a mere outline for a book they wanted to publish, rather than simply bouncing it and moving on to another one.While making his case, I found that Anthony was, for the most part he was, on occasion, a trite bit or downright mean to the editors femininity gracious and rather calm in tone when discussing the treatment of his original manuscript He was especially, and rightly so, gracious to Robert Coulson, who was given the task of rewriting the novel As for Coulson, I felt for him He seemed to be wedged between a rock and a hard place Probably felt fortunate, and was thus pleased to have the opportunity of being involved with working on a Piers Anthony manuscript, yet learning along the way, that he was but a pawn under the control of the Laser Book editors Why did they involve him at all They seemed at least able to retype a manuscript they themselves reinvented If anything and Anthony did mention it when it was so was to salvage as much as he could manage of any of Piers s original ideas though I feel he wasn t strong enough to resist much of the requested changes the meddling editors demanded Besides the major edits of plot and characterization.The strangest thing was that there were a torrent of changes that were made for no reason at all It was as if Coulson was directed to rewrite every sentence that he could, meaning even if you are not changing anything, just say it a different way It was change for the sake of change, as if they thought they were avoiding plagiary I simply don t get it.I hope this whole debacle did not discourage Coulson from developing his own talent I have not yet read anything of his besides his contribution to this work but it breaks my heart that he had to even be roped into thisWere all the Laser Books treated this way I read the Dean Koontz s Laser Book 9 written with the pseudonym Aaron Wolfe entitled Invaders which he later reworked into Winter s Moon Was that one really mostly rewritten by this board of six bickering nit picking overlord editors I actually really liked the novel It is my kind of story, and possibly one I would like best from this author, as much of what he has written seems to me,fantasy than SF but that is only by judging the covers and titles I could be wrong I will considerworks by this author, such as his Macroscope for starters


  2. says:

    Piers Anthony s But What of Earth is an astonishing book, a novel he had originally written in the 70s and which was subsequently rewritten at the publisher s insistence but apparently without Anthony s permission This got Anthony s dander up, and now, 13 years later, he has his revenge In this book he lashes out at not only his publisher and his unwitting co writer, but also, and most especially, at the bevy of copy editors who scrawled on his manuscript Somehow he got his hands on their m Piers Anthony s But What of Earth is an astonishing book, a novel he had originally written in the 70s and which was subsequently rewritten at the publisher s insistence but apparently without Anthony s permission This got Anthony s dander up, and now, 13 years later, he has his revenge In this book he lashes out at not only his publisher and his unwitting co writer, but also, and most especially, at the bevy of copy editors who scrawled on his manuscript Somehow he got his hands on their marks, and he quotes them at length, in order to hold them up to for ridicule, in the lengthy endnotes that make up a good third of the book I am not making this up Here he calls them conniving bitches p230 suggests that one missed a nuance because she was in the Ladie s Room at the moment p235 hypothesizes that one of them is surely unmarried p257 exclaims to one, May God preserve the man who tries to hold your hand p268 and objects when they call his text sexist passim His comments on their notes set a new high water mark for creepy and bitter Addressing one of the copyeditors, who had wondered how a character missed the obvious, he says, The obvious can be the hardest thing to recognize which is why women disrobe in lighted apartments with uncurtained windows, providing the men of the neighborhood with nightly entertainment Ever do that yourself p237 Isis that a threat In any event, it s vintage Piers Anthony At one point, after a character calls another one a bastard, he appends a helpful note patiently explaining Actually, bastard is not the ideal word technically it means a person born when his parents weren t married etc p249 At another, again addressing a copy editor, he whines straightfaced, Don t you have better uses for your time than this p235.The whole endeavor is similarly unintentionally hilarious Forgive me if I m getting paranoid, but somehow I perceive something other than helpful literary criticism operating here, Anthony writes about the copyediting p237 And he is correct, if these were copy editors who had marked up his text, they would be overstepping their bounds But it is pretty clear that the publisher deemed Anthony s submitted manuscript unpublishable, and handed it around in a desperate attempt to get some advice from several hands, before having the whole thing rewritten Perhaps to preserve what was left of Anthony s dignity, he passed the substantive editing off as copyediting, and Anthony bought it But how many copy editors does he think his work merits Why would a science fiction novel have five copy editors, all poring over the same copy Bear in mind that Anthony regards all copyediting as make work so there won t be too many unemployed girls tramping the streets of Parnassus p209.Is it even necessary to mention that Anthony sought to prove objectively that his version of this book published here for the first time is superior to the co written rewritten version by having a neutral third party judge them both No No, of course he would do that.The novel itself is an interesting idea executed in a pedestrian fashion but with splashes of typical Anthony ridiculousness The notes, however, are a laugh riot, and I cannot recommend them highly enough to anyone interested in seeing the depths to which we can sink.You ll note that whoever copyedited the current text was too cowed to change Ladie s Room to ladies room


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    The book itself is actually decent it s clearly a first draft and shouldn t have been put out that way, but for a first draft it s pretty incredible, and definitely draws you in.But that s not why most pople pick up this particular edition of But What of Earth I would imagine It s the compendium of footnotes at the end However, those footnotes have succeeded in one thing turning me off of Piers Anthony The misogyny in those comments, combined with the pretnetious thought that he, being The book itself is actually decent it s clearly a first draft and shouldn t have been put out that way, but for a first draft it s pretty incredible, and definitely draws you in.But that s not why most pople pick up this particular edition of But What of Earth I would imagine It s the compendium of footnotes at the end However, those footnotes have succeeded in one thing turning me off of Piers Anthony The misogyny in those comments, combined with the pretnetious thought that he, being Piers Anthony, must know better than any editor, makes it quite nasty Do I think those editors screwed him over Of course they did many of the things he references in those notes should be grounds for firing these editors but not all Every now and again, you see a nugget of egotism and rage aimed at anyone especially a woman who would dare try to mark up his prose.As two stories, the boks serve their purpose tey entertain They have good plot But it s that all ecompassing ego in those notes that kept him from anything but a three If you see it in a second hand store or a library, give it a read, but don t spend any real money on it Not wirth it


  4. says:

    My step dad recommended this book to me because I m getting into writing and he thought this would be a good insight for me on what can happen to a manuscript when it goes to the editor I really appreciate it, but I ended up not liking the main character enough to continue the story.


  5. says:

    But What Of Earth A great title I was hooked.I had to go about reading this one a different way that any other novel Their are, as any Anthony fan knows, two different versions of this novel The first was the hacked up, chewed up and spat out Laser Book 44 version published in 1976 with apparent co author Robert Coulson, and Anthony s original manuscript published by Baen Books in 1989, with an extended tediously numerated 100 plus specific gripes pertaining to the 76 Laser version But What Of Earth A great title I was hooked.I had to go about reading this one a different way that any other novel Their are, as any Anthony fan knows, two different versions of this novel The first was the hacked up, chewed up and spat out Laser Book 44 version published in 1976 with apparent co author Robert Coulson, and Anthony s original manuscript published by Baen Books in 1989, with an extended tediously numerated 100 plus specific gripes pertaining to the 76 Laser version of the novel.I had first read that original manuscript, then the Laser version, and then reread the first version for clarification.The only other works I ve read by Piers Anthony was his Anthology short story collection In that, he spent much of it griping in forewords to each of the stories about the troubles he had with editors and agents such as Frederick Pohl of all people When I first read the intro of the 1989 version of What about Earth I thought Here we go again Does Piers Anthony ever publish anything without whining about what he went through getting it out to his adoring and loyal followers I know, being a sort of artistic type myself that one must deal with the troubles of realizing one s vision Movie script writers are often dumbfounded as to how their movie actually turned out by the end of shooting, song writers having to put up with an oddball singer s interpretation and so on It s art and theothers are involved with it, theit will affect its outcome Most often those who have financial interests in the project will certainly warp your oeuvre into what they believe will best serve their interests, not to mention attempt at putting their signature touch to it if not hijacking the entire project all togetherBut with But What of Earth , Anthony makes a pretty convincing open and shut case His original manuscript was definitely brutalized by the folks at Laser They really ought to have simply bouncing it and moving on to something else rather than pretty much steal his premise, plot, characters they practically used his manuscript as an outline for a book they wanted to publish Utterly frightening.While making his case, I found that Anthony was, for the most part, trying to be gracious and calm in tone when discussing the treatment of his original manuscript, though he was, on occasion, a trite bit downright mean to the editors taking poor taste shots towards their femininity However, he was especially, and rightly so, gracious to Robert Coulson, who was assigned the task of rewriting the novel As for Coulson, I felt for him He seemed to be wedged between a rock and a hard place Probably felt fortunate and pleased to have been given the opportunity of being involved with working on a Piers Anthony manuscript, yet learning along the way, that he was but a pawn under the control of the Laser Book editors That he was not collaborating at all Based on correspondence, if anything, it seemed he often tried to salvage as much as he could manage of any of Piers s original ideas, but it seemed he simply wasn t strong enough to resist much of the requested changes the meddling editors demanded him to make.It is unfortunate that the torrent of changes that were made were for no reason at all It was as if Coulson was directed to rewrite every sentence he could, meaning even if you are not changing anything, just say it a different way It was change for the sake of change I simply don t get it.I hope this whole debacle did not discourage Coulson from developing his own talent I have not yet read anything of his besides his contribution to this work.Were all the Laser Books treated this way I read Dean Koontz s Invaders Laser Book 9 which he later reworked into Winter s Moon written with the pseudonym Aaron Wolfe Was that one mostly rewritten by this board of six bickering nit picking overlord editors I actually really liked the novel.I rated 3 stars for the original manuscript and 1 only for the Laser version


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    This book was all right, and was entertaining enough, but wasn t quite as good as I d expected or hoped.I found the style a little stilted especially some of the dialogue , at times, and the development of the major relationships had a suddenness that made them hard to believe Again, Anthony s female characters seemed under developed It waslike observing a narrated story than actually experiencing it, and this feeling took away from the enjoyment of what could otherwise have been quite This book was all right, and was entertaining enough, but wasn t quite as good as I d expected or hoped.I found the style a little stilted especially some of the dialogue , at times, and the development of the major relationships had a suddenness that made them hard to believe Again, Anthony s female characters seemed under developed It waslike observing a narrated story than actually experiencing it, and this feeling took away from the enjoyment of what could otherwise have been quite a good book The central theme and Anthony s driving hypothesis that a society s level of civilization is directly proportional to its numbers are both compelling and, I think, very true, but it seemed like he only skimmed the surface This may bebecause it was meant for a mainstream audience, though, and the fact he d had to shorten it by half, than anything else It does make meinterested in the other books he s written in this vein, though, and I ll be looking for Tarot to which he refers several times sometime in the near future.The BEST part of this book, though, was the lengthy commentary on the huge mess that was this novel s first publishing I laughed out loud at some parts, grimaced at others, and shook my head over the whole thing In some ways, I sometimes found Anthony s justified rantinginteresting and relateable than the story it surrounds


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    The book has problems It s too loose to be considered a good book But I like the premise of it quite a lot Imagine space travel becomes relatively cheap You don t need to be a billionaire, but you need a decent bank account Now imagine there are colonies on other planets designed for those rich people to live Pretty soon everyone who can afford it will leave this dirty, polluted earth behind Why subject yourself to the poor, huddled masses When the rich people leave, things get uglier an The book has problems It s too loose to be considered a good book But I like the premise of it quite a lot Imagine space travel becomes relatively cheap You don t need to be a billionaire, but you need a decent bank account Now imagine there are colonies on other planets designed for those rich people to live Pretty soon everyone who can afford it will leave this dirty, polluted earth behind Why subject yourself to the poor, huddled masses When the rich people leave, things get uglier and uglier Pretty soon, society is starting to crumble All the great leaders have left Governments become ineffective and unstable Earth begins to regress, and we return to a time of roaming hordes and warlords Technology grows because population grows Innovation is fueled by money If the population dwindles, and the money dries up, then people are too busy trying to keep their family safe from lunatics to come up with a new iPhone app.It s an interesting idea, and really, it s not that far from the concept of earth seen in the movie Elysium.Piers Anthony had a good idea for a story, a strong foundation But he rushed it, he it ended up being half baked So three stars Mostly because I loved the idea, but didn t particularly like the book


  8. says:

    This book is fascinating not for its plot or characters but for the subplot of what the original publisher and people hired by the publisher as editors and re writers did to Piers Anthony s book The book is written in the classic humorous Anthony style, familiar to any of his fans I did not read the original published edition but I read the edition with Piers Anthony s face on the cover that was later published by Anthony with copious endnotes detailing the atrocities visited on his work This book is fascinating not for its plot or characters but for the subplot of what the original publisher and people hired by the publisher as editors and re writers did to Piers Anthony s book The book is written in the classic humorous Anthony style, familiar to any of his fans I did not read the original published edition but I read the edition with Piers Anthony s face on the cover that was later published by Anthony with copious endnotes detailing the atrocities visited on his work One thing that just jumped out at me is that the original publisher Del Rey if memory serves hired people with no sense of humor as re writers This really makes me wonder if the people in the hiring positions were familiar at all with Piers Anthony s work and his writing style This book the edition with the endnotes is entertaining and educational it was fun for me not a professional writer to see some of the pains that an established and well respected writer had to endure Review originally published 2007 with later corrections to html


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    As others have said, the major draw here is not the story itself, which is a pretty readable draft, but the meta story, including the arguments with the editors It s been so long since I read it that I don t remember specifics, but I do remember how drastically some of them wanted to change it, to the point where it would have been a completely different book Now, in the case of many Anthony books, you could argue that might be an improvement, but the point is that it wasn t his book after tha As others have said, the major draw here is not the story itself, which is a pretty readable draft, but the meta story, including the arguments with the editors It s been so long since I read it that I don t remember specifics, but I do remember how drastically some of them wanted to change it, to the point where it would have been a completely different book Now, in the case of many Anthony books, you could argue that might be an improvement, but the point is that it wasn t his book after that point


  10. says:

    Science fiction books are touch and go at times Sometimes they get so wrapped up in the science portion of the story they forget the fiction But What of Earth doesn t do this It is an amazing tale of what happens to the planet Earth once new inhabitable planets are discovered I quite enjoyed the way Piers Anthony takes us through the de evolution of society Even though at times you are forced to use the dictionary in the back of the book, it was a quick read and extremely imaginative.


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But What of Earth? Science Fiction, Autobiography, And A Candid, Witty Send Up Of The Publishing Industry Combine In A Wild Adventure Of A Novel That Winds Up In The Wrong Hands.