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  • 349 pages
  • Keisri hull
  • Jaan Kross
  • English
  • 14 January 2016
  • 9781860465796

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  1. Mariel Mariel says:

    Here is a conclusion I have reached leaving the uestion of God aside I certainly won't lose sleep over the fatherland I have seen what total devotion to it may entail Partial devotion to it may imply treason but a true and total devotion to the fatherland such as Timo's would be sheer madness Or is there yet another alternative? Or all possibilities in this world simply alternatives? Even in the gently swaying separate world of the reeds at dusk? The Czar's Madman is an historical novel with an historical background It has a subtextual message traveling under the lines in subterranean fatherland blues I suspect it stuffs itself in all of the important places The back book flap touts Jaan Kross' arrest by the Soviets and his nine years in exile and labor camps Historical Timotheus von Bock the so called madman also spent nine years in prison Never forget it He has ideals to spout from the chopping block The Soviets allowed Kross to research Bock and publish his novel in 1985 I don't doubt that the motives behind the subtext were for subversive reasons Maybe my translated copy is different than the original in Estonian though because it read like standing underneath an ACME product on its way down Is the Czar's Madman really mad? Is he insane? Gasp how could he criticize life under their putrid green growing thumb? I got the premise of the book thanks Psst he is bat shit crazy Crazier than a shit house rat I tell you The journal excerpts from his brother in law Jakob Mattik were real There's an afterward about this that I only skimmed because by this point I was grateful to be done with the thing Timo did write a letter to the Czar condemning him for treacheries under his rule Well MOST of the book are excerpts from journals Lots and lots of letters If this were a film much of it would be done in voice overs while the actors exchanged looks of Is this madman for real? over sheets of paper I'm sorry with secret decoder rings too because there were chunks carved out for ways to get around censorship as well Maybe Kross was writing a how to guide for readers living under Soviet rule with him I did read on the guardian that the Soviets didn't change much so my leaning on the beneficial side of doubt isn't too far They must have been fooled those Soviets Probably too bored over the endless repetitive letters to pay much attentionThe storytelling voice of Jakob in The Czar's Madman reads like Gwyneth Paltrow in the 1990s film version of Emma You know when she has that I love John I hate John speech in a fake accent creamed off the surface of a mental pool that doesn't probe too deeply past a reflection of ripples from immediate stone throwers A person who doesn't yet know what they think and the way the wind blows could change everything His sister Eeva married the letter scribe of we need a CHANGE It is admitted amidst all of the grand ideals that he doesn't spend any time with peasants other than the one he had trained up to be a lady enough for his world they check your mouth for your silver spoon before you cross the River Styx before he could marry her His Czar loved him and allowed him to marry this girl of his choice It is kind of like how Molly Ringwald could tell John Hughes to give her the part of the popular girl in The Breakfast Club instead of the freak he really wanted her to play Sure they would do one film after this but the boat was already kicked off the dock the rope gnawed through You were supposed to do as I say Timo did not really have the Czar's ear When he has been punished and separated from his wife and son he still writes letters He still how crazy confronts those sent to babysit or spy on him with honesty I liked Timo in this but it would be tedious and it was tedious reading about it This is not subtext it is really the main point of my blathering hearing about HIS ideals how he needed others to back HIM up in his ideals Dude you are not the only one living in all of this shit Wasn't that the point in telling the story through the eyes of another? No it was the subtextual feeling alas Jakob writes often in his journal how he cares about how the events of their lives transpire because it directly affects his own The best parts of The Czar's Madman would have been this if the action hadn't stopped so often to detail the contents of yet another letter The subtext of what everyone really meant was obvious enough without having to read about brother and sister discussing between them what everyone really meant Is he really asking for his money back when we are so poor? That Eeva would want Jakob around when she was trying to live like a hummingbird or a shark that can never stop swimming was like going backwards He was still a peasant He's not honest with her despite his parasitic need That could have been good but it reverts to rehash of the same lettered material HONORABLE Timo has his opinions and we must back him up in his Of course communism didn't turn out to be about how everyone's lives are interconnected versus sitting around for one nobleman to work out how he felt about everything Jakob's undertones suggested a resentment of his sister rising above him through her marriage He admired her for the ualities that I found the most boring to read about Eeva or her new name Katerina or Kitty as her husband calls her I didn't want to read about their intimate pet names It felt like eavesdropping on a love scene of strangers where you had no reason to be there Every time he uses Kitty I wanted to leave the room is a cards held to her chest and never plays them for herself sort of a person She would have been interesting if she cared about this stuff for its own sake Later she will be torn between her husband and the dyed in the wool of the old noble ways son Jüri To his credit he doesn't dismiss his uncle To Jakob's credit he gives his writings about Timo to Jüri so that he could make up his own mind If only The Czar's Madman did this too If only the characters weren't woven out of already cut and dried materials The talking to yourself way of Jakob's journal would have been interesting if it went deeply even his acknowledgement of it falling into the wrong hands doesn't stop him That said a lot to me about the soapy box shape of their dreams What was all of this Is he really insane? shit about Did anyone wonder about the state of mind of his man ethered in the kingdom in the sky of politics? I also didn't care about Jakob's love life I felt like I was trapped with a little girl who talks herself into the crushes of the day with little speeches Oh it turns out I was in love with that other girl all of the time I didn't have much to go on with Jakob I don't want to write off his love story as Iette was the first girl to fuck him but That's all I had As for Eeva and Timo it is as boring as sitting in a room with a person who keeps all their cards to their chest as if you were going to lay the losing card on the table Jakob praises Eeva for keeping herself to herself Sure I can see why that is necessary But she had her own world of the three people and then she had her brother who pretty much worked for her It is a fact of life that most people you will never know at all What is the point about living in a book world if you are left to guess at the rattlings inside the bird cages Eeva did not live to be written about in journals letters and historical novels Jakob hardly wonders about it other than how it is going to affect him It wouldn't affect me I was only a little girl when this book was written and Kross must've felt tied up to have wanted to find a guy in the past who wanted to stay in his bonds and show you that he is tied up Timo lets Eeva and Jakob waste years of their lives plotting his escape only to finally admit at first in whispering tones and then louder as he starts to feel himself in the right about his bonds It couldn't have ever been about how the Czar treated everyone then HIS bonds Where were everyone's bonds? Jakob says he is tied to them The real Eeva must've felt so much to have tried to help her madman So how come the point was if he was mad to have written the letter at all? What about their lives? The subtext drowned out the text when their lives became talking about look at Timo and how much he believes Listen to Timo dammit It sucks that anyone had to go to prison If what you have to say becomes about how you want to talk about what you have to say then shouldn't you look at Eeva and your son and wonder who you are saying it for His Czar died and turned into another Czar and he died and turned into another Czar Their man it should have been You could leave the book at the title and that would be the story He was THEIRS and by wallowing in their bonds he became theirs to call as they wanted It's not like this book didn't have interesting uestions from its material But boy is it ever boring to read endless letters that say the same thing over and over and over and over again to lead to a conclusion about politics when all I really wanted to know is if Eeva ever lived for herself Kross must have been pretty ticked off that the Soviet censors didn't like his poetry and locked him away I wonder what his poetry was like Did they black out every word? Did they send it back to him with a cruel rejection letter or did they just show up with the ride to prison? Did he forget about what he had wanted to say in the first place when they wouldn't let him speak? Ps Maybe it was some real life What a coincidence moment that Jakob turned down his love Iette because her father was a spy only to marry his unknown to her other daughter But it felt like cheesey novel shit Jakob's life made me roll my eyes It did My book about him would be called The Czars Madmans Wife's Douche Bag Brother

  2. Conrad Conrad says:

    Kross is one of the better writers you've never read An Estonian who I believe is still alive albeit ancient he wrote his only two long works that have been translated into English this and Professor Marten's Departure under Soviet rule managing to disguise a vicious and oftentimes funny critiue of their authoritarian ways by writing about Estonians under the Tsar The Czar's Madman is about Timo von Bock an actual Estonian nobleman who has the gall to criticize the Tsar's authoritarian style of rule and is imprisoned for his trouble Timo himself is a great character full of joie de vivre and rebelliousness but also well educated and serious in his principled opposition to tyranny The story is written from the perspective of a teacher who falls in with Timo's people and is innately suspicious of anything that upsets the status uo too much Kross calls into uestion the link between political objectives and affairs of the heart as though he knew exactly what Gloria Steinem was writing at the same time; the parallel tales of the narrator's and von Bock's failed love affairs may be the most rewarding aspect of the bookWhen I was teaching in Estonia my students always complained about having to read Jaan Kross when they were in high school much the way we Americans always have to read Dickens I envy them their complaints

  3. Gordon Gordon says:

    I was prepared to give Kross the benefit of the doubt because I have a soft spot for Estonia It turns out there was no need This was dazzling one of the best books I have ever read Timo von Bock whether he was truly mad or not is a man after my own heart but with a thousand times the courage The book as a whole is a wonderfully readable mix of tragedy comedy historical commentary and the touching life stories of of beautifully drawn characters and raises some challenging uestions to boot Kui on tore

  4. Leland Leland says:

    A brilliant novel written as a diary Rich in 19th Century Estonian and Russian history Vivid descriptions of the Estonian landscape and one of the most compelling novels I've ever read No spoilers just a recommendation anyone interested in Estonia who doesn't know of Jaan Kross get this book Anyone who loves 19th Century Russian Lit read this book for a very uniue perspective Anyone who likes to read novels written in non standard narrative formats this is one of the finest

  5. Nancy Oakes Nancy Oakes says:

    don't worry no spoilers hereFirst let me say that I would recommend this book to readers who enjoy historical fiction and not what often passes for historical fiction; ie romantic novels set in an historical period The Czar's Madman is not an easy read and demands patience and thorough reading so if you're looking for light historical fiction this isn't the book for you Otherwise if like myself you enjoy fiction set during the Czarist period in Russia which lasted actually through 1917 then don't miss this oneThe author assumes that the reader is going to have some basic knowledge of Russian history and I did find that a basic understanding was helpful I had to go to the Internet a few times to set myself straight on a few things but then again I'm weird I can't read something like this unless I have a vague knowledge of the setting of the storyThe book is done as a journal kept by Jakob Mattik over the span of some 30 or so years Jakob is the brother in law of Timotheus von Bock the main character of the story the so called Czar's Madman It is set in post Napoleonic Russia during the reigns of Alexander I and Nicholas I Von Bock was a trusted general and confidant to Alexander I; after the Napoleonic Wars he returned to his native Livonia modern day Estonia and decided that he would take a wife Rather than going the normal route of marrying within his class or station he decided to take a peasant woman as a wife as part of his plan to prove the euality of all human beings before God nature and his ideals 9 So after three weeks of knowing Eeva Jakob's sister later to be known as KatharinaKitty who was 13 or 14 at the time they became engaged he proposed to her and had Eeva and Jakob sent off to a private school Eeva to learn the skills needed to become one of the nobility; Jakob to keep Eeva company during her time there By age 19 Eeva's education was complete and she and Von Bock married and returned to Livonia to settle But VonBock a man with a conscience is soon arrested and taken away to be held prisoner at a high security prison because he sent Czar Alexander a letter describing everything that was wrong with his rule and with Russia under the Czar's tyranny As the novel opens VonBock is being released because he has been found to be insane and is sent home to Livonia to live out his years under surveillance But the uestion absorbing Jakob's time focuses on the truth of VonBock's insanity was he really crazy or as Jakob notes did VonBock's madness lie in his sense of honor? 141That's just the beginningthe rest of Jakob's diary is a look at life in Livonia at the time and the reach that the Czar had in the Balkans It is also a look at Russia under the reign of the Czars society and the hopes held for the futureA really outstanding read one I have no problems recommending

  6. Bettie Bettie says:

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  7. Martinxo Martinxo says:

    Easily one of the best books I've read this year looking forward to reading of his work A perfect book for the winter

  8. Val Val says:

    The Czar's Madman is a historical novel set in the 19th century in Livonia now split between Estonia and Latvia when the Baltic States had been invaded enslaved and absorbed into the Russian Empire Jaan Kross lived through a time when Estonia was invaded by both Nazi Germany and the Soviet USSR His family were well off and German speaking expected to side with the Nazis; he did not He just managed to miss Germany's earlier occupation in WW1 by being born too late and I do not know what his sympathies would have been when Germany was the less oppressive regime I think Jaan Kross is criticising all authoritarian regimes in this book but is difficult to be sure He is certainly criticising those who say people are free to express their opinions and then deride or punish them for doing soThe book is apparently based on a real manuscript found over a hundred years after the events described Most or possibly all of the characters in the book existed The Afterword explains the author's use of the materialThe protagonist of the book was a nobleman Timotheus von Bock who dared to criticise the then Czar Alexander the First As a member of the aristocracy he was generally strongly czarist and in a privileged position He takes his friend the Czar at his word when Alexander says he wants to hear the truth He is imprisoned for several years and then released to house arrest after Alexander's death by the next Czar Nicholas the First Von Bock is sympathetic to his peasants than most people in his class; he marries one of them which suggests he does see them as people not farm animals although his manner is high handed This may be Kross's view of Soviet Communism the peasants get euality and education but not much say in what they do with themThe style of the book is uite rambling and repetitive with many diversions This suits a story about a person who may be slightly mad told by an educated peasant in love with words but can get a little irritatingThe other characters have different opinions on Timo von Bock's mental state Was he mad to marry a peasant? Was he mad to criticise the Czar? Was he sane then but has he become mad since as a result of his incarceration? Was he mad then and sane now? Is he pretending to be mad to confuse the Czar's spies? We are not given a definitive answer which is as it should be The alternative that he is a free thinking patriot who wants to set up a slightly representative government along the lines of the House of Lords and move his country forward into the thirteenth century is too revolutionary to contemplateIt was not advisable to criticise the Czar; it was not advisable for an author to criticise Communism under Brezhnev and expect to have his book published although he could of course blame Stalin for everything There is some veiled criticism however apart from the situation of the serfs not being noticeably improved by their emancipation which is written as a condemnation of the very limited reforms enacted under czarist rule there is an odd little incident of Timo's brother George and whether he gets his debt repaid or not It is decided by the throw of a dice I took this as a commentary on the sometimes arbitrary application of 'from each according to his ability to each according to his need' This is an accomplished book and a well conceived one I enjoyed the story the allegorical uality and the narrator's musings but I did not love it

  9. Tony Tony says:

    How many greatest Estonian novelists have you heard of? Yeah me tooI read a review of this in the latest Slightly Foxed uarterly and thought it was probably about time I read some Eastern European fiction

  10. Alesi Alesi says:

    35 stars for the first 23 and 5 stars for the last 13

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Keisri hull[Reading] ➷ Keisri hull By Jaan Kross – Timo von Bock's release by the Czar from nine years' incarceration does not spell the end of the Baron's troubles he is confined to his Livonian estate to live under the constant eye of police informe Timo von Bock's release by the Czar from nine years' incarceration does not spell the end of the Baron's troubles he is confined to his Livonian estate to live under the constant eye of police informers planted among his own household and is subjected to endless humiliations It is claimed that he is a madman and in need of 'protection' a man would need to be insane after all to have taken a Czar at his word when asked for a candid appraisal of the state's infirmitiesFrom the year of his release from prison and return to his wife Eeva a woman of peasant stock to whom with her brother Jakob he has given a solid education the Baron's life is recorded in a secret journal by this same Jakob a shrewd and observant house guestReconstructing the events leading up to the Baron's incarceration in and subseuent to his release in Jakob little by little brings to light mysteries surrounding the 'Czar's madman' Was his madness genuine What was the secret understanding between him and his boon companion Czar Alexander I who committed him to prisonIn The Czar's Madman Jaan Kross weaves together the elements of intrigue surrounding those historical characters who survived in post Napoleonic Russia and by a skillful shifting of chronology and viewpoints creates a superbly rich and moving narrativeWinner of France's Best Foreign Book Award.

About the Author: Jaan Kross

Estonia's best known and most translated writer is Jaan Kross He has been tipped for the Nobel Prize for Literature on several occasions for his novels but did in fact start his literary career as a poet and translator of poetry On his return from the labour camps and internal exile in Russia where he spent the years as a political prisoner Kross renewed Estonian poetry giving it n.