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A Game of Thrones [KINDLE] ❁ A Game of Thrones By George R.R. Martin – Buyprobolan50.co.uk С шеметния cи бяг oт cкoвана в жеcтoк cтуд cтpана към земи на вечнo лятo и oxoлнo безгpижие Игpа на тpoнoве е cказание за С шеметния cи бяг oт cкoвана в жеcтoк cтуд cтpана към земи на вечнo лятo и oxoлнo безгpижие Игpа на тpoнoве е cказание за владетели и владетелки вoини и чаpoдеи наемни убийци и незакoнopoдени пpетенденти за влаcт пoявили cе във вpемена на мpачни пoличби Тук cтpанна вoйнcтвена opда cе cpажава c мечoве изкoвани oт невиждан oт чoвека метал жеcтoкo дивашкo племе cее безумие cpед xopата cвиpеп млад пpинц oт кpъвта на дpакoна pазменя cеcтpа cи за A Game Epub / да cи въpне тpoна еднo дете cе губи в cумpака между живoта и cмъpтта и една pешена на вcичкo жена пpедпpиема oпаcнo пътуване за да защити тoва кoетo и е cкъпo Сpед загoвopи и кoваpcтва тpагедии и веpoлoмcтвo пoбеди и наcилия cъюзници и вpагoве cъдбата на Стаpките виcи на кocъм и вcяка oт cтpаните cе бopи за пoбеда в най cмъpтoнocния кoнфликт Игpата на тpoнoве.

About the Author: George R.R. Martin

George RR Martin was born September in Bayonne New Jersey His father was Raymond Collins Martin a longshoreman and his mother was Margaret Brady Martin He has two sisters Darleen Martin Lapinski and Janet Martin Patten Martin attended Mary Jane Donohoe School and Marist High School He began writing very young selling monster stories to other neighborhood children for pennies.

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  1. J.G. Keely J.G. Keely says:

    There are plenty of fantasy authors who claim to be doing something different with the genre Ironically they often write the most predictable books of all as evidenced by Goodkind and Paolini Though I'm not sure why they protest so much predictability is hardly a death sentence in genre fantasyThe archetypal story of a hero a villain a profound love and a world to be saved never seems to get old it's a great story when it's told well At the best it's exciting exotic and builds to a fulfilling climax At the worst it's just a bloodless rehash Unfortunately the worst are common by farPerhaps it was this abundance of cliche romances that drove Martin to aim for something different Unfortunately you can't just choose to be different any than you can choose to be creative Sure Moorcock's original concept for Elric was to be the anti Conan but at some point he had to push his limits and move beyond difference for difference's sake and he didIn similar gesture Martin rejects the allegorical romance of epic fantasy which basically means tearing out the guts of the genre the wonder the ideals the heroism and with them the moral purpose Fine so he took out the rollicking fun and the social message what did he replace them with?Like the post Moore comics of the nineties fantasy has already borne witness to a backlash against the upright moral hero and then a backlash against the grim antihero who succeeded him Hell if all Martin wanted was grim and gritty antiheroes in an amoral world he didn't have to reject the staples of fantasy he could have gone to its roots Howard Leiber and AndersonLike many authors aiming for realism he forgets 'truth is stranger than fiction' The real world is full of unbelievable events coincidences and odd characters When authors remove these elements in an attempt to make their world seem real they make their fiction duller than reality; after all unexpected details are the heart of verisimilitude When Chekhov and Peake eschewed the easy thrill of romance they replaced it with the odd and absurd moments strange enough to feel true In comparison Martin's world is dull and gray Instead of innovating new radical elements he merely removes familiar staples and any style defined by lack is going to end up feeling thinYet despite trying inject the book with history and realism he does not reject the melodramatic characterization of his fantasy forefathers as evidenced by his brooding bastard antihero protagonist with pet albino wolf Apparently to him 'grim realism' is 'Draco in Leather Pants' This produces a conflicted tone a soap opera cast lost in an existentialist filmThere's also lots of sex and misogyny and 'wall to wall rape' not that books should shy away from sex or from any uncomfortable unpleasant reality of life The problem is when people who are not comfortable with their own sexuality start writing about it which seems to plague every mainstream fantasy author Their pen gets away from them their own hangups start leaking into the scene until it's not even about the characters any it's just the author cybering about his favorite fetish and if I cyber with a fat bearded stranger I expect to be paid for itI know a lot of fans probably get into it than I do like night elf hunters humping away in WOW but reading Goodkind Jordan and Martin it's like seeing a Playboy at your uncle's where all the pages are wrinkled That's not to say there isn't serviceable pop fantasy sex out there it's just written by womenThough I didn't save any choice examples I did come across this uote from a later book she wore faded sandsilk pants and woven grass sandals Her small breasts moved freely beneath a painted Dothraki vest Imagine the process Martin sits hands hovering over the keys trying to get inside his character's head Okay I'm a woman How do I see and feel the world differently? My cultural role is defined by childbirth I can be bought and sold in marriage by my own Oh hey I've got tits Man look at those things go whooshing mammary sound effects Okay time to writeWhere are the descriptions of variously sized dongs swinging within the confines of absurdly detailed clothing? There are a set of manboobs which perhaps Martin has some personal experience with but not until book five Even then it's not the dude being hyperaware of his own they're just there to gross out a dwarf Not really a balanced depictionIf you're familiar with the show and its parodies on South Park and SNL this lack of dongs may surprise you But as Martin himself explained when asked why there's no gay sex in his books despite having gay characters 'they’re not the viewpoint characters' as if somehow the viewpoints he chooses to depict are beyond his control Apparently he plots as well as your average NaNoWriMo author sorry none of my characters chose to be gay nothing I can do about itAnd balance really is the problem here if you only depict the dark gritty stuff that you're into that's not realism it's just a fetish If you depict the grimness of war by having every female character threatened with rape but the same thing never happens to a male character despite the fact that men get raped in the military than women then your 'gritty realism card' definitely gets revokedThe books are notorious for the sudden pointless deaths which some suggest is another sign of realism but of course nothing is pointless in fiction because everything that shows up on the page is only there because the author put it there Sure in real life people suddenly die before finishing their life's work fantasy authors do it all the time but there's a reason we don't tend to tell stories of people who die unexpectedly in the middle of things they are boring and pointless They build up for a while then eventually lead nowhereNovelists often write in isolation so it's easy to forget the rule to which playwrights adhere your story is always a fiction Any time you treat it as if it were real you are working against yourself The writing that feels the most natural is never effortless it is carefully and painstakingly constructed to seem that wayA staple of Creative Writing 101 is to 'listen to how people really talk' which is terrible advice A transcript of any conversation will be so full of repetition half thoughts and non specific words 'stuff' 'thing' as to be incomprehensible especially without the cues of tone and body language Written communication has its own rules so making dialogue feel like speech is a trick writers play It's the same with sudden character deaths treat them like a history and your plot will become choppy and hard to followNot that the deaths are truly unpredictable Like in an action film they are a plot convenience kill off a villain and you don't have to wrap up his arc You don't have to defeat him psychologically the finality of his death is the great eualizer You skip the hard work of demonstrating that the hero was morally right because he's the only option leftLikewise in Martin's book death ties up loose threads namely plot threads Often this is the only ending we get to his plot arcs which makes them rather predictable any time a character is about to build up enough influence to make things better or stable he will die Any character who poses a threat to the continuing chaos which drives the action will first be built up and then killed offI found this interview to be a particularly telling example of how Martin thinks of character deaths I killed view spoilerNed hide spoiler

  2. Shannon (Giraffe Days) Shannon (Giraffe Days) says:

    I really feel the necessity of a bit of personal backstory here before I start the review Back in 1996 when this book first came out and I was about 14 or 16 years old I saw the hardcover on a sale table for about 5 and couldn't resist a bargain still can't though I'm cautious these days So I started reading this book with the vague idea that it was a flop and that may not have helped but I got through 100 pages of it before feeling so crapped off with it that I shoved it in my cupboard and tried not to think about it Page 108 to be exact More on why laterIf you've heard of this book or read it you're probably aware that far from being the flop I assumed it was at the time and I didn't know anyone who was reading it the series has gone on to be one of the big Cash Cows of the fantasy genre Computer games role playing games there's even a board game that looks like Risk Sooner or later there'll be a movie or something no doubt I'm moderately surprised one isn't in the works already People love this book and this series So I'm well aware I'll probably be lynched for this review because even the people on Goodreads who didn't like it still had great things to say about itBut reviews are subjective and here's mineIn the vein of Tolkein Jordan Elliott Goodkind Hobb Eddings Feist et al A Game of Thrones is set in the classicly boring and overdone medieval England esue setting and is essentially about a bunch of nobles fighting over a throne Great Very original Praised for its focus on political intrigue its lack of magic and similar fantasy tropes and its cast of believable and interesting characters I found the book tedious The first epic fantasy series I read after Narnia was Jordan's The Wheel of Time series and it's true that I struggled with the first book Eye of the World But there were elements to it that I liked characters who I felt attached to enough to read the second book and become hooked and so on I love 1000 page long fat fantasy books I love huge casts of characters and have no problem keeping up with them I've read Jennifer Fallon's Wolfblade trilogy and Second Sons Trilogy both of which are heavy on political intrigue and very low on magic and they're supurb A Game of Thrones is not It offers nothing new to the genre and does nothing original with what it hasNarrated in turns by Eddard Ned Stark Lord of Winterfell; his wife Lady Catelyn; his bastard son Jon Snow; his very young daughters Sansa and Arya; his middle son Bran; Tyrion Lannister a dwarf and brother to the ueen; and young Daenerys Targaryen last of the line of dragon kings and exiled to the land beyond the narrow sea the book is divided into neat chapters headed by the name of one or the other so you know exactly whose point of view you're going to get and where you are in the plot Thanks for holding my hand Martin but I don't like this techniue The chapter headings I'm referring to It encourages me to start wondering about the character before I've even started reading CATELYN the chapter title reads is she young or old a peasant a farmer a daughter a mother nice mean I start imagining things and then have to correct it all as the character is revealed during the chapter There's power in names and withholding them or putting elements of a character's personality first is often compelling and better writing It also made it harder to get through the book because at the end of one chapter I'd see the name of the next think oh great himher again their story's boring and put the book downLet me be perfectly straight I did not find any of the characters to be particularly interesting; though Jaime Lannister had something about him you hardly ever saw him They all pretty much felt like the same character just in different situations The differences between them for example the good girl Sansa and her tomboy sister Arya felt forced superficial and clichéd Ned is all about honour and duty but especially honour with love a minor consideration but honestly could the man be stupid? Eddard's a moron and dull and his only saving grace is that he's nice to his daughters Let's be clear about something else right here this world and its people are so sexist and misogynist it's ludicrous There are many derogatory references to women's tits metaphors about screwing whores descriptions of Daenerys getting her nipples pinched by her horrible brother Viserys not to mention her marriage at twelve to a horselord whose men rape women like there's no tomorrow; incest and so on The first time I tried to read this book I was offended and disgusted it didn't help that I'd read Pillars of the Earth not long before; though I did not grow up sexually repressed or prudish or anything like that I have never found reading descriptions of rape to be all that easy especially when they're treated so dismissively yet oddly my impressions of the characters were much favourable I read it now and I just felt contemptNo one character stands out though Arya has potential Catelyn is as boring as her husband and her sister Lysa is let's face it mad as a hatter and a sure sign of why women are unfit to rule a clear message in this medieval esue patriarchal world ueen Cercei too Tyrion the dwarf seems on the verge of having charisma but fails and Daenerys I want to like someone but Martin doesn't give his characters any depth Sure they're all flawed and a flawed character is a great literary device the anti hero etc But Martin's characters are walking clichés even the dwarf The plot is also pretty weak I don't need elves and magic and dragons in fact I tend to avoid them especially elves yawn but you've gotta give me something else A bildungsroman does wonders yes let me see the characters on a journey of life rather than a uest uests are tired There's no uest in A Game of Thrones and that's fine with me But what is there? Jon goes to the Wall that separates the wilderness from the Seven Kingdoms why is it called the Seven Kingdoms when there's only one kingdom? and is attacked by an Other a kind of zombie creature; Ned goes to the capital to take up the role of King's Hand because the King Robert likes to spend his time boozing whoring and hunting; Catelyn follows to tell him someone tried to kill Bran; Ned tries to discover why the previous Hand died And swords with names seriously what's with that? I'm so sick of such blatant phallic symbols and their representations and the whole creed of honour and duty and gallant knightsWhat frustrates me most is that this could have been a really interesting story if only the author had better talent at writing characters or letting them write themselves The plot is not the problem though it's largely uneventful with no climactic moments because even those are written at the same pace as the rest with no drammatic flourishes come on we all like those let's be honest But the characters sigh their motivations are simplistic their actions extremely predictable and while they don't blur one into another neither do any of them stand out Also the type of setting seems mostly convenient with the focus on the nobles and their suabbling you don't learn much about the lower classes or what kind of food is grown here or what kind of industry supports the economy or anything about the cultures using the clichéd medieval England setting allows Martin to ignore one of the fascinating aspects of society and leaves his world shallow like surface water without support using this old and worn Fantasy setting allows an author to get lazy about world building The history of the land is also riddled with clichés and sort of thrown in here and there as if to remind the reader it is a real place look here's what the First Men did As for the writing it's easy to read and calm though very slow and rather lacking in tone or any interesting stylistic uirks flat and bland in other words There's no atmosphere in this book There're a few bad lines like A storm of rose petals blew across a blood streaked sky as blue as the eyes of death p425 his one concession to drama it seems though if you read it again you'll notice it doesn't actually make sense; and a few awkward sentences that leave you scrambling such as Catelyn watched her son Robb Stark mount up Olyvar Frey held his horse for him Lord Walder's son two years older than Robb and ten years younger and anxious p696 I noticed a similar sentence later and I guess I know what he means but really it's terrible writingOn the plus side there were a few things I liked The direwolves large ferocious animals as constant companions and protectors always a winner with me; the intriguing climate where summer and winter lasts years decades even before changing how does that work? Seriously what do they eat?; Daenerys' dragon eggs and the Dothraki the horse lords though they were pretty superficial and confined to a rigid list of adjectives I would have liked to understand their culture better In many fantasy books my problem is the whole good vs evil cliché which generally involves the plot Here my problem is that the characters are so black and white They are described good that's settled now what? There's no grey No character development They never once surprised meI honestly don't know if I'll read the next book The Wheel of Time taught me at the same age as I first tried reading this book 16 that the first book in a series can be the weakest because of the amount of extrapolation and background etc that goes on I didn't find that problem here it was very grounded in the now which makes me think the next book will be of the same I keep coming back to the reasons why I struggled to finish this book boredom clichéd and empty characters not enough balance as in there's no love in this book and if the characters are so realistic why don't they love? and predictable events You know what it reminds me of? Marion Zimmer Bradley's eually famous The Mists of Avalon another book I couldn't finish If you like Arthurian fantasy and that kind of style then this would be a good book for you the excessively patriarchal culture the battles the hint of magic and something glorious lurking around the edges but never coming to the fore it's all here neatly packaged Obviously it works for a lot of people But to all those people who say that Martin has opened up the genre in new ways that he is the best writer of the epic fantasy crowd and so on I have to wonder have they read anything else? And then I wonder whether it's a matter of which author you read first and grow attached to and so compare all the others I don't think I fell into that trap as such because Jordan's lost the plot literally Goodkind's personal politics and propaganda have taken over his story and the one epic fantasy series that I love above all others to date is Kate Elliott's Crown of Stars series which I didn't start reading till I was in uni But I really wonder how this story grabbed other people If it grabbed you I'd love to hear how and why because sometimes I feel like I'm too jaded or something too snobby maybe

  3. Kogiopsis Kogiopsis says:

    Ten years and five hundred comments later and men still think I care if they disagree with meWARNING If you enjoyed this book even a little bit you may not want to read this review It will probably make you angry Heaven knows that the book made me furious and I intend to turn every bit of that wrath back on itInstead I suggest you read karen's review Brigid's review Joyzi's review or any other of the gushing four and five star reviews here If video reviews are your style I suggest Melina Pendulum's vlog about this bookRealistically I know a lot of you are not going to listen which is why the edit is here At least it will slow you down a littleEDIT adding one thing because despite the warning and the redirect links I kindly provided I have indeed gotten the kind of sexist bullshit comments I anticipated Before you launch into the usual defense therefore I give you this Alternatively some fans may find it tempting to argue “Well this media is a realistic portrayal of societies like X Y Z” But when you say that sexism and racism and heterosexism and cissexism have to be in the narrative or the story won’t be realistic what you are saying is that we humans literally cannot recognise ourselves without systemic prejudice nor can we connect to characters who are not unrepentant bigots Um yikes YIKES you guysAnd even if you think that’s true which scares the hell out of me I don’t see you arguing for an accurate portrayal of everything in your fiction all the time For example most people seem fine without accurate portrayal of what personal hygiene was really like in 1300 CE in their medieval fantasy media Newsflash realistically Robb Stark and Jon Snow rarely bathed or brushed their teeth or hair In real life people have to go to the bathroom In movies and books they don’t show that very much because it’s boring and gross Well guess what bigotry is also boring and gross But everyone is just dying to keep that in the scriptSourceHere's the scoop on this review For a book that I hate I usually write a lot After suffering for several hundred pages I have pleeeenty of things to say I've never hated a book that was uite as long as this one uite as much as I do so I've had to alter my review so that I can say everything I want to without going over the character limitThe first part is an unorganized rant I marked pages with particularly annoying uotes on them; for these rants I broke the book into segments of 100 pages and wrote up uotes and responses for each segment into separate blog posts These are all linked belowThe second part will be a organized rant masuerading as a review MAKE NO MISTAKE THIS IS A 'HATER' REVIEW IF ANYTHING WAS GOING TO CAUSE ME TO SPONTANEOUSLY DEVELOP THE ABILITY TO BREATHE FIRE IT WOULD HAVE BEEN THIS BOOKPart 1Pages 1 100Pages 101 200Pages 201 300Pages 301 400Pages 401 500Pages 501 600Pages 601 700Pages 701 807Part 2There are books I don't likeThere are books I loatheAnd thenthere's this book which did its level best to drive me to drinkingand I don't even like alcoholI wanted to like this I wanted it to be as excellent as so many people insist it is There are some books that I went into expecting them to be horrible but this isn't one of them Oh my hopes were high here it was recommended by a plethora of great authors including the guys of Writing Excuses who I absolutely love Reviewers who I greatly respect rated it four and five stars and wrote at length about how awesome it was Other people praised the book as the greatest achievement of the fantasy genre so far and Martin as the greatest fantasy writer of all timeIt's those last two that are most important I think because I love the fantasy genre always have and hopefully always will Fantasy is what got me into reading well Harry Potter specifically and it's been one of my mainstays for as long as I can remember I bought this book in large part because it was so often touted as if not always the greatest achievement of the genre one of the major works of fantasy published in our time Having recently read several works by Brandon Sanderson all of which were innovative highly readable and deeply philosophical I was excited to see what Martin by all reports an even better writer than Sanderson could do I expected my mind to be blown repeatedly and to be faced with the challenge of writing a review for a book so staggeringly brilliant that I could hardly think straight after finishing itThat is far far far from what I gotFirst of all this book is definitely not what I think of when I hear the word 'fantasy' It's certainly far from my definition of 'high fantasy' Now I realize that my definition of 'high fantasy' which includes pervasive magic unusual creatures and a setting that is vividly far from the real world is not the definition you'll find if you look the term up online I also don't care Seeing as the critical definition appears to characterize high fantasy solely by the fact that it doesn't take place on our Earth and as this definition is written as if high fantasy and sword and sorcery are mutually exclusive I'm inclined to conclude that whoever wrote said definition is pretty damn stupid and carry on with my own outlines of what makes fantasy high low urban epic or any other subcategory or combination thereofThat said this book? High fantasy? Not as far as I'm concerned It is to say the least distinctly lacking in the reuisite elements of the fantasticIs it possible that Martin is going for a 'the magic comes back' subplot over the course of the series? Definitely Do I give two shits about the rest of the series? NOPEThis book comes off as a pathetic attempt at fantasy by someone who doesn't really care about the genre or doesn't know much about it It mostly struck me as an alternate universe War of the Roses fanfiction with some hints of magic thrown in in a halfassed attempt to give it a place on the genre fiction shelves of bookstores You can explain to me over and over how Martin intended to make his world 'gritty' and 'realistic' and I will tell you over and over that that shouldn't matter that it is possible to have a fantasy which is gritty realistic and also utterly fantastical It's even possible to do it without losing the particular areas where Martin seemed to be trying for gritty realism since he chose to make all of his characters of the nobility anyhow he wouldn't have had to worry about overglorifying the lives of the peasantry as one might with a economically diverse castNow I'm willing to give Martin the benefit of the doubt a little bit on the possibility of the 'magic comes back' thing because there did seem to be elements here that could become fantastical if fully explained later The problem of course is that they're tossed out without background let alone proper explanation and so feel jarring and out of place not a coherent part of the world but bits tossed in to be linked together later Right now all they managed to do was trip me up throw me ass over teakettle out of the story and leave me blinking at the page in confusion and not a little bit of frustrationAnd yeah maybe part of why I'm so sore about this is that like I said I started this book not long after reading some Sanderson and Sanderson is basically the king of seamless fantastical elegant worldbuilding so pretty much anyone looks bad in comparison but stillIf I had to assign this book to a genre I'd call it 'low fantasy' because as far as I'm concerned it was running too low on the ualities that make fantasy what it is It's about as much fantasy as fanfiction that translates characters to the modern day is namely basically mundane with a miniscule twistThe characters of this book also stand out and not in a good wayThere are a lot of them eight POVs and plenty on the side and not a single one of them is likeable They all had the potential to be which makes it worse Bran the Stark boy who learns too much and is crippled as a result could have an interesting arc if it weren't so slow and drawn out The hints of genuine pathos inducing story are definitely there They're also present in the chapters focused on Catelyn who is the closest Martin gets to a truly nuanced character Ned Stark Catelyn's husband is supposed to be the noble one too bad his 'nobility' comes off as stupidity instead Jon Snow Ned's bastard child is a truly stereotypical fantasy character the super special 'outcast' who is nonetheless generally loved except by those the narration makes a point to show as bigoted and cruel who never really has to work either for physical skills or personal growth and who gets gifted by the narrative with an absurd number of SUPER UNIUE TRAPPINGS including an albino wolf really Martin REALLY? Are you secretly a fourteen year old girl writing horrendous anime fanfic or something? Answer no and the comparison is insulting to fourteen year old girls and a bastard sword that was a family heirloom of a noble house not his own Arya is by far the most entertaining of the Starks but only because she fulfills all sorts of rebellious noble girl learns to fight tropes that I'm uite fond of Sansa's chapters made me set the book down for days on end; she is beyond a shadow of a doubt the most insipid annoying airheaded character I have ever read and she has not a single whisper of a redeeming uality Tyrion Lannister is what Jon Snow could have become without the heapings of Gary Stu in his youth a bitter middle aged man with father issues who turns to sex and crudity as his only defense; somewhat akin to Catelyn he had the potential to be interesting and nuanced if his behavior hadn't been played dead straightAnd there's one Daenerys Targaryen Oh Dany Dany Dany I could write a dissertation on Dany and everything that went wrong with her story but I don't have that kind of timeFor those of you not familiar with this most epic of George RR Martin's characterization and plot failures here is a summaryoh and spoilers but I honestly can't be bothered to tag itWhen we first meet her Dany is thirteen years ond and about to be sold effectively into marriage with Khal Drogo a warlord of the Dothraki people by her abusive and not a little bit crazy brother Viserys Viserys has convinced himself that Drogo will help him take back 'his' kingdom this being the Seven Kingdoms where the rest of the book takes place hence the whole 'selling his sister to be raped by married to someone he obviously sees as a barbarian' thing The marriage occurs and then the wedding night in truly suicky half detail There then follows a long journey across the plains to a Dothraki city during which Dany is raped and no I will not call it anything else by Drogo By her fourteenth birthday she is pregnant When they arrive in the Dothraki city Viserys makes such an ass of himself that Drogo kills him by pouring molten gold over his head in the middle of a feasting hall Robert the current king of the Seven Kingdoms who the Targaryens see as a usurper sends assassins to kill Dany naturally they fail and Drogo gets so angry at this that he decides to commit all his people to attacking the Seven Kingdoms in retribution They leave the Dothraki city at this point Dany is heavily pregnant and go out to wreak havoc across the countryside on their way to conuest In one such battle Drogo is wounded; because he refuses to care for the wound properly it gets infected When it is clear that he is going to die Dany appeals to an old woman to perform forbidden magic to save him; the rest of Drogo's people do not approve and try to cast Dany out End result Dany loses her child to create a Drogo zombie which she then smothers When his body is placed on the traditional pyre she adds in three supposedly dead dragon eggs given to her as wedding gifts and which any fool could see hundreds of pages off were bound to hatch and surprise surprise they hatchTo which my primary objections are1 The blinding obviousness of the ending2 The fact that this single plotline this single POV among eight is so far distant from and so barely related to the others 3 The fact that Dany being raped is never treated as what it is and that the relationship between her and Drogo is portrayed as love The first two are self explanatory; the third of course is the big thorny problem Now I can sort of understand the perspective which argues that Dany is taking control of her sexuality she comes to enjoy sex and even to initiate and control it at times However SHE IS AT NO POINT OLDER THAN FOURTEEN There's a reason that such a concept as an 'age of consent' exists there is an age at which teenagers are genuinely immature and probably shouldn't be making life changing decisions like say things that could get them pregnant Now I understand that in the medieval times like those that this book is based on girls were getting married and having children a lot earlier and that people in general were mature at an early age However Dany shows none of that maturity until after she's been with Drogo for weeks if not months When she's married to him she is if anything unusually innocent for her age It's a little hard for me to accept the idea that she's taking control of her sexuality when she's so young and clueless that her first sexual experience is a choice only inasmuch as she chooses not to fight back Not fighting back by the way doesn't mean it's not rape particularly in the situation that Dany is in vastly younger than Drogo vastly weaker browbeaten by her abusive brother and told over and over that her obligation is to do whatever her husband wants Nor are her later sexual experiences ones of choice; in fact it is explicitly stated that even when she had horrible saddle sores and could barely walk she was expected to be available for sex and treated as such If anything her eventual enjoyment of it seems like a psychological block put up as a survival tactic than genuine pleasure in the act or love for DrogoYet despite the fact that this situation is obviously beyond a shadow of a doubt rape it's never addressed in text If anything it's portrayed as a positive experience for Dany one that makes her stronger and enables her to stand up for herself Stupid me; I thought that the cancerous expansion of rape as love was limited to abusive jackass love interests in YA paranormal romances; clearly I was wrong It's everywhere people We are all completely fucking doomedWhich brings me to one of the other major frustrations I had with this book the sex Ummm what to say? I thought reading some of the V'lane bits of Darkfever while sitting next to my mother on the plane was uncomfortable; to my utter shock that was nothing compared to reading the sex scenes of this book alone No worry about someone looking over my shoulder and reading about MacKayla Lane getting hot and bothered and yet even awkward Why? Well as one reviewer put it and I wish I could remember who to give them credit they're written kind of as if they're these tremendous mythic events I cringe at the very thought of uoting them but to give you a little idea of what they're like worst romance sex scenes you've ever read bizarre flowerly euphemisms gratuitous use of the word 'manhood'general strange reverence for penises above and beyond the norm incidences of incest Game of Thrones sex sceneIn general AWKWARDJust to be sure you feel my painThis book felt male oriented in a way that is so painfully forced that it made me distinctly uncomfortable I don't mean that women can't enjoy it obviously as all the reviews I linked back at the top demonstrate they can and they do I mean that the book itself felt as if it were written for the most stereotypical male audience imaginable As Tatiana described it it reads like a soap opera for men Because MEN want lots of violence sex swearing by female genitalia and paper thin motivations right? Which is exactly what Martin dishes upand so is the book he's producedI thought at around the halfway point that I'd finish the book and be able to watch the HBO show to get the rest of the series without suffering through awkwardly described sex scenes not to mention the rest of it By the time I finished though I had developed such a virulent hatred for this book its author and everything related to either of the above that I start grinding my teeth just reading praise for it Watching the show would be vastly to my detriment mostly because neither my hand nor my bank account would do well after I put my fist through the screen of my laptopIn conclusionsummaryOh and to the diehard defenders of this series like those who were plaguing Keely's review who like to tell people who disagree with them that GRRM is the greatest writer of ALL TIME and that the female characters presented herein are feminist or to use an exact uote that GRRM has written some of the most independent self reliant heroines ever to grace the fantasy genre It's than half the reason he's so beloved His female characters disdain male attention are always smarter faster deadlier and braver than any of their male counterparts Kinda like feminists with swords which is complete and utter bullshit I have only one thing to sayTHANK YOU AND GOODNIGHT

  4. karen karen says:

    yupnerds now i am among youthis is going to be a review where i just prattle on and on about meee meee meee because let's face it there are a million reviews of this puppy out there so i don't have to worry about doing a disservice to the book you'll either read the book or you won't but you should it's got direwolvesi wasn't going to read this after years of watching hordes of desperate sad eyed nerds coming up to me asking any news on the george rr martin release?? like the bn computer knows somehow than the internet it doesn't and i would have to tell them not without some schadenfreude glee nope it has just been moved back another year it gave me a solid sense of there but for the grace like when you see a very young junkie and you congratulate yourself for dodging that particular bulletdespite what i kept hearing about how awesome the books were i just filed it away in the mental RA folder of stuff nerds like and figured one day i would read them you know for research but not before they were all out i wasn't going to get sucked into the trap of so many before me the waiting game of disappointment and having to reread the older books again and again to keep track of who was even alive at this point when you play the game of thrones you play to become frustrated and impatienti have seen it a hundred timesso when the teevee show came out and people were drooling over how good it was i paid them no mind i pushed it two feet past the someday pile in my brain because i am not one of those people who watch a movie before reading the book am i??but connor wore me down he really wanted me to see it and he wanted to talk to me about it and his bearded little face was all lit from within with enthusiasm and i just couldn't say no to himso i did it i watched the teeveee on demand several episodes in a row pissed off if i started to get too sleepy to make it through another episodeso so goodso now i had to read it right? i owe it to the gods of fine literature and allso i did and god this book is funi am glad they changed a few things for the filmed version i'm not sure i would have been too comfortable watching a thirteen year old actress play daenerys in the same line of thought natalie i know you have not watched the show yet but your crush on jon snow?? perfectly understandable to someone watching the show he has that dark brooding thing i can see a girl going for but if you have only read the books?? girl your crush is on a fourteen year old boy i have notified the authorities you pervin the end i am glad i watched the show first if only so that i know how to pronounce the characters' names oh you crazy high fantasy novels and your namesalfonso won't read this series because of the incest and because they never tell you where the soldiers pooped i am not kidding several people complain that the seasonal imbalance complicates the growing cycle and where is all their food coming from this point i can understand fantasy novels are supposed to care about developing a fully realized world and all and that is kind of a major detail but it doesn't bother me at all i am no connoisseur of fantasy i am a dilettante at best so i don't care where people are getting their food i don't care if the social hierarchy is a realistic one given the particulars of this realm i certainly don't care where the soldiers are pooping nor do i care in any novel where and when the characters poop i just like this book's uiet intrigues and betrayals the diplomacy the lack of hesitation when it is time for a character to be killed off i love how there aren't any good guys or bad guys only effective and ineffective characters every one of them does at least one thing that'll make a reader go oh bad move so he dropped a few details when it comes to agriculture he spent all his energies into creating characters that i love reading aboutthere are facets to this thing sides of the argument rarely seen in a straight ahead rollicking plot driven novel and i'm not really sure where the misogyny accusations come from is it because women can't really ascend to power except through marriage?? because i don't think that was invented for this book i am pretty sure that has happened historically in other places and if it's the looting and raping well that happens in war too wait is it sansa?? yeah she's kind of a wash but the girl wants what the girl wants she's at least complicated than bella right? there are plenty of good characters here that aren't weak or power mad or just regular mad okay there are a couple but sheeeeit all the characters here are pretty bad on the moral spectrum right? littlefinger is my very favorite but i wouldn't want to know him in my real life i appreciate his devotion thoughso i am super excited about clash of kings both the book i will read and the show i will watch swords and boobies and direwolves i don't even know how i am going to make it until thenoh because i was talking about boobies and HBO just there connor was telling me this story about louis ck and i loved it and i found this uote it is relevant hbo is nudity crazy but he took care of their lust for flesh HBO was asking us why there was no nudity on the show and what they really meant was Why wasn’t Pamela Adlon who played my wife nude? When I hired Pam I didn’t tell her she was going to be doing anything like that It wasn’t supposed to be that kind of show So I said “You know what I’ll do it” And I did that episode and they were like “OK we have plenty of nudity thank you”hbo thwartedlook dana i read one of your books and i have just discovered betterbooktitlescomcome to my blog

  5. Mark Lawrence Mark Lawrence says:

    I rated this in 2010 In 2017 it's time I actually use my wordsHere's my long overdue review of A Game of Thrones I was looking at the current reviews Here you have a book with a ridiculously high average rating vast sales and the most liked reviews are three 1s and an unrated comedy piece Do we love to hate that much? Apparently we do Not only is knocking down easier than building it’s also fun to watch Well sadly all I have to offer here is a less exciting set of praise for the genius and importance of this bookThe first bit of genius is that on paper GRRM writes in not only the opposite manner to me but in a manner I profess to dislike Wait I like how he writes on paper you know what I meanThings he does that should annoy meI Lengthy descriptions of everything especially food clothing and architecture Normally I hate wading through that stuff to get at the story Somehow GRRM does it in a way I likeII Large numbers of point of view characters I normally find this makes each of them rather shallow and stereotyped GRRM is magnificent with characters and brings even the throw away non point of view ones to lifeIII Huge expanding story lines I tend to like some sort of focus but every corner you turn in this series can end up leading you down a seemingly endless rabbit hole of minor noble houses their retainers local suabbles history etc And this has irked me at points especially in the later books but it’s also kind of marvellous and makes everything feel really real and also deep rooted in a Tolkienesue way I maintain that not only is Game of Thrones a brilliant read it’s also an important one for the genre It’s meaningful to talk about post GRRM fantasy For many people indeed for a decent chunk of a whole generation of fantasy authors George RR Martin's A Game of Thrones was a step change in the genreFor me and a lot of other authors Martin's work opened our eyes to what felt like a whole different world of what fantasy writing could be and we've run out into those new territories eager to try to copy not the style or substance but the ualityIn my youth when we entered a fantasy land we were expected to suspending our belief about magic and alternate worlds but not only that We were expected to enter a sort of mythic fairy tale world where people weren't uite real They didn't feel like actual regular humans bound by the same fears worries ambitions aches and pains as you and I they felt like actors in roles cogs in a plot engine icons and ciphers They were too good or too evilFantasy had its conventions and we played within them reader and author exercised a mutual understanding regarding the rules rather like ancient Greek theatre or a musical where for no reason the cast can break from the story into a rousing song Of course I exaggerate And this isn't to say that authors didn't weave fascinating and compelling stories within those conventions The fantasy of the 70s and 80s kept me very happy and some of it was written by writers of surpassing genius Even so it was uite definitely 'apart' from the books that really touched me or showed me new things about 'what it's all about' works of literary fiction and miles distant from what 99% of the public was readingThe step I'm talking about may be entirely artificial or demonstrable fact It may be that in the 90's when I was reading very little fantasy the genre moved smoothly into what it is now It may be that GRRM is talked of as a step change by so many simply because his success meant that A Game of Thrones was the first book that fantasy exiles actually picked up after their absence and thus they saw in it a 'sudden' significant difference or it may be that he really did raise the bar in one swift moveEither way what he did was to present us with real people I'm not talking about the 'gritty realism' that is of late so hotly debated in some uarters of the interwebs I'm just talking about the strength of his characterisation the creation of real people with everyday weaknesses wants ambitions set in a world that feels like it has a genuine past that matters to them both on the grand and small scalesWhat he did drew many people back into the genre as readers and as writers His work was both a challenge and an invitation He showed what fantasy could be Real people who didn't carry a particular flaw around like an attribute rolled up in a role playing game but who were complex capable of both good and evil victims of circumstance heroes of the moment Heroes in gleaming mail could suffer from corns without it being a joke That's a big part of his secret EVERYONE IS HUMAN get behind their eyes and nobody is perfect nobody is worthlessI don't write anything like George RR Martin I don't lay claim to any significant portion of his talent But I do count myself as one of his many inheritors in this game you can inherit without reuiring the other person to stop writing And what I inherited was the desire if not the ability to put it all on the page Fantasy no longer feels like an acuired taste a club where you have to learn the conventions the forms what the masks mean what the short hand is for fantasy feels real And I love it Join my 3 emails a year newsletter #prizes

  6. Miranda Reads Miranda Reads says:

    Okay I am SO incredibly late to this party but hey I made it And the hype was real Winter is coming Lord Eddard Ned Stark lives with his family in a world where the seasons are thrown completely off summers last decades and winters are eually long His five children plus his bastard son Jon Snow are on the way back to their home Winterfell when they stumble upon and subseuently adopt six direwolf pups the symbol of the Starks with the albino runt going to John When the snows fall and the white winds blow the lone wolf dies but the pack survives Upon returning home King Robert Baratheon an old friend of Ned recruits the Lord to replace the adviser to the crownAt first he was hesitant but upon learning that the ueen Cersei Lannister may be behind the death of the previous adviser he decides to go in order to protect his friendUnfortuntately before he goes Bran Ned's youngest son discovers that view spoiler the ueen is having an affair with her brother hide spoiler

  7. Emily May Emily May says:

    When you play the game of thrones you win or you die There is no middle ground 3 12 stars So in one weekend I finally finished the book I picked up and put down about ten years ago and watched the final episode of the TV series I have loved for eight years How odd that the book ended up better than I expected and the TV show um didn't Warning I will be talking about the depiction of rape in this reviewI think I was ready to commit this time around I'd already watched the show and become invested in the characters so reading 900 pages about them didn't seem so unattractive I think it's uite well written especially the dialogue which is where Martin shines It's also just entertaining for the most part The bloody vicious backstabbing kind of entertainment that apparently I do likeIt's also an amazing feat of world building I was blown away by the amount of thought and detail that has gone into this and it's just the first book Martin has considered details that would never have even crossed my mind little sayings folktales and uirks particular to the people of certain regions or certain houses but it all serves to make a very rich and complex world that is all the believable for it He has created a whole new universe from scratch one with thousands of years of history and many different peoples and cultures It's breathtaking honestlyUnfortunately it's not all good Saying nothing of the show's finale there are many strong and smart women in this series with fantastic story arcs and yet the book and show cannot shake some of its misogyny Tatiana covered this well 13 year old Dany's romance with her rapist is one of the lowest pointsOn this read of A Game of Thrones I found the exact moment I put it down the first time around I got further than I remembered It was that moment during Dany and Drogo's wedding when a woman is raped It wasn't the rape in itself Though of course I find rape deeply disturbing I also know that it has been a horrible but true reality in many wars and societies Showing that it happens does not seem unrealistic What I found truly awful about this one scene though was the way the woman was barely described as a person We don't know what her name was what she looked like what her reaction was or what her fate was This woman being raped was so throwaway with the focus of the scene being the Dothraki who were raping her and fighting over herThe only thing that kept me reading this time was knowing that there are so many amazing female characters in this series who are treated with empathy and for the most part respect by the author I am just hoping that Martin finishes these bloody books so we can get a better ending than the show fingers crossedOh and I 100% agree with the show writers decision to up the ages of major characters like Robb Jon and Dany It seemed like a very odd decision to have 13 15 year olds leading wars and revolutionsThis would be a good series if you're a fan of gory historical fiction You know the kind with bloody battles political upheaval and despicable people? It's like that but with dragons Don't read this if you are sensitive to scenes of graphic violence rape andor incest Blog | Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | Youtube

  8. MJ Nicholls MJ Nicholls says:

    Reader LogicI HATE this bookI HATE it so much I had to get a new hardback copy to read so I could underline all the parts I HATE about it so much and post them on GoodreadsI HATE it with such a passion I also bought copies for all my friends and family also in new hardback editions so they could HATE it along with meWhen the TV series came on I was so fuming with rage I watched the entire season twice and bought six copies of the DVD because I could not believe how much I could HATE somethingI had spent so much time discussing how much I HATE this with all my friends who HATE it too and who all bought copies I decided to get a George RR Martin tattoo on my buttock to show how strong my HATRED for his work is There was such a collectivity at the time—like everyone uniting in HATING this together—that some of us formed relationships in HATE I met my wife at a George RR Martin convention and we got married as one of the characters reciting parts of the book for our vows and paid GRRM all our life savings to come read from his HORRIBLE book We HATE this beyond belief Maybe one day we’ll read a book we like and the author can get rich on LOVE

  9. Emily May Emily May says:

    I tried reading this a long time ago and gave up very uickly I know many love it but I think from the start I knew it wasn't for me Looooong fantasy series never have been for some reason HOWEVER I have to confess that the TV series is such a guilty pleasure of mine And even though I will never return to this series can we all just take a minute to admit that how I spent my weekend is kinda coolAnd a sneaky bonus for Torchwood fansJust so you know all the cool people totally close their eyes during at least one photo #truefact

  10. Shannon Shannon says:

    First off I'm a heavy duty fan of GRRM I've read over a 100 different fantasy authors in my time Took about 5 years off from the genre bc I felt it was all getting too formulaic and cliched So when I came back to fantasy I read the usual Goodkind Jordan etc and then someone told me about GRRM and man that was the kicker Here are the reasons to choose GRRM I've also listed the reasons not to choose him to make it fair bc I know their are certain personalities who won't like this seriesWHY TO READ GRRM1 YOU ARE TIRED OF FORMULAIC FANTASY good lad beats the dark lord against impossible odds; boy is the epitome of good; he and all his friends never die even though they go through great dangers the good and noble king; the beautiful princess who falls in love with the commoner boy even though their stations are drastically different you get the idea After reading this over and over it gets old 2 YOU ARE TIRED OF ALL THE HEROES STAYING ALIVE EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE UNDER CONSTANT DANGER this gets even worse where the author kills a main hero off but that person comes back later in the story Or a hero does die but magic brings him back This sometimes carries to minor characters where even they may not die but most fantasy authors like to kill them off to show that some risked the adventure and perished3 YOU ARE A MEDIEVAL HISTORY BUFF this story was influenced by the WARS OF THE ROSES and THE HUNDRED YEARS WAR 4 YOU LOVE SERIOUS INTRIGUE WITHOUT STUPID OPPONENTS lots of layering; lots of intrigue; lots of clever players in the game of thrones Unlike other fantasy novels one side usually the villain is stupid or not too bright 5 YOU ARE INTERESTED IN BIASED OPINIONS AND DIFFERENT TRUTHS GRRM has set this up where each chapter has the title of one character and the whole chapter is through their viewpoint Interesting tidbit is that you get their perception of events or truths But if you pay attention someone else will mention a different angle of truth in the story that we rarely see in other novels Lastly and most importantly GRRM doesn't try to tell us which person is right in their perception He purposelly leaves it vague so that we are kept guessing 6 LEGENDS some of the most interesting characters are those who are long gone or dead We never get the entire story but only bits and pieces; something that other fantasy authors could learn from to heighten suspense Additionally bc the points of views are not congruent we sometimes get different opinions 7 WORDPLAY if you're big on metaphors and description GRRM is your guy Almost flawless flow “What is honor compared to a woman's love? What is duty against the feel of a newborn son in your arms or the memory of a brother's smile? Wind and words Wind and words We are only human and the gods have fashioned us for love That is our great glory and our great tragedy” “Why is it that when one man builds a wall the next man immediately needs to know what's on the other side?” “You are your mother's trueborn son of LannisterAm I? the dwarf replied sardonic Do tell my lord father My mother died birthing me and he's never been sureI don't even know who my mother was Jon said Some woman no doubt Most of them are He favored Jon with a rueful grin Remember this boy All dwarfs may be bastards yet not all bastards need be dwarfsAnd with that he turned and sauntered back into the feast whistling a tune When he opened the door the light from within threw his shadow clear across the yard and for just a moment Tyrion Lannister stood tall as a king” “Oh my sweet summer child Old Nan said uietly what do you know of fear? Fear is for the winter my little lord when the snows fall a hundred feet deep and the ice wind comes howling out of the north Fear is for the long night when the sun hides its face for years at a time and little children are born and live and die all in darkness while the direwolves grow gaunt and hungry and the white walkers move through the woods” 8 LOTS OF CONFLICT all types too; not just fighting but between characters through threats and intrigue9 MULTILAYERED PLOTTING; SUB PLOTS GALORE each character has their own separate storyline; especially as the story continues and everyone gets scattered This is one of the reasons why each novel is between 700 900 pages10 SUPERLATIVE VARIED CHARACTERS not the typical archetypes that we are used to in most fantasy; some are gritty; few are totally evil or good; GRRM does a great job of changing our opinions of characters as the series progress This is especially true of Jaime in book three 11 REALISTIC MEDIEVAL DIALOGUE not to the point that we can't understand it but well done12 HEAPS OF SYMBOLISM AND PROPHECY if you're big on that 13 EXCELLENT MYSTERIES very hard to figure out the culprits; GRRM must have read a lot of mystery novels14 RICHLY TEXTURED FEMALE CHARACTERS best male author on female characters I have read; realistic on how women think too 15 LOW MAGIC WORLD magic is low key; not over the top so heroes can't get out of jams with it REASONS TO NOT READ GRRM1 YOU LIKE YOUR MAIN CHARACTERS GRRM does a good job of creating likable characters after a few die But if that isn't your style you shouldn't be reading it He kills off several not just one so be warned 2 DO NOT CARE FOR GRITTY GRAY CHARACTERS if you like white and gray characters this may unsettle you I suggest Feist or Goodkind or Dragonlance if you want a straight forward story with strong archetypes 3 MULTIPLE POINTS OF VIEWS TURN YOU OFF if you prefer that the POVS only go to a few characters this might be confusing for you 4 SWEARING SEX there's a lot of it in this book just as there is in real life 5 YOU DEMAND CLOSURE AT THE END OF EVERY BOOK this isn't the case for all stories in the series Some are still going on; some have been resolved; others have been created and are moving on 6 IF YOU WANT A TARGET OR SOMEONE TO BLAME this can be done to some extent but not as much This is bc he doesn't try to make anyone necessarily good or evil 7 ARCHETYPES some readers like archetypal characters because it's comfortable; we like the good young hero sort of like Pug in Feist's THE RIFTWAR SAGA; it's familiar and we sometimes like to pretend we're this upcoming great hero You wont' get much of this in GRRM with the exception of one or two characters 8 LENGTH you don't want to get into a long fantasy epic series In that case look for shorters works as this is biiig 9 PATRIARCHY men are most of the main characters with lots of power one female exception STORYPLOTTING A minus; CHARACTERDIALOGUE A minus to A; LEGENDSWORLD BUILDING A plus; FANTASY FOCUSES A; OVERALL GRADE A; WHEN READ LAST 2009 5 readings revised review April 2012; pics added August 2013

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